Cape Cod activists challenge wind project over local health concerns

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[Music] Good morning. And again, I want to thank uh Representative Marky for making some time for us talking about the Brian Walsh case. Again, if you haven't been following that, I think it's a good case to follow because it's going to get really I think it's going to get really interesting. Very sad case, obviously. Uh the Brian Walsh case. Um, all right. So, here's the plan. Um, Susanna Connley is um going to give us a call. She's down on the Cape. She've been fighting offshore wind from a little bit of a different angle than the um people from Actful Wales. Um, and we'll have Sue Sue get into that with us. Um, I find these activist type groups um that are taking on major power companies um sophisticated lobbies like yesterday um the illegal alien lobby. Um Cheryl Ball who called into the program from Yarmouth. Of course, we've had um act for Wales regularly here on the program. Amy Dibio and her group. Um, I I just like these Dave and Goliath type stories and the fact that you can take on what you believe to be the inevitable and fight it and win. Slow it down. Get people to take a second look. I love those stories and I want to encourage it really um within our community. People who say, "Hey, wait a second. I don't think that's a good idea. I'm going to tell all my neighbors and try to build some some support within within a democratic framework to prevent that change or to enact change, right? So then in the uh the 11:00 hour, if you haven't already been watching it, I'd encourage you to to watch The Last Dawn of Providence, the Mafia story about uh Baby Shanks Monakio put on by WPRI. You watch it through the WPRI app on your smart television and it's free. It's a really good produ production. Yesterday they released the third episode. Um, and it's got a Massachusetts connection. A lot of Massachusetts people in that story. Um, so check it out and we'll have Tim White on in the 11:00 hour to talk about that and promote it. There's one episode every Monday. So they've got three episodes out now. The fourth concluding episode will be next Monday and you can you can you can watch them all at once if you want the three episodes. Um and again like I said it's free and it's re really good television. Really good television. And then also in the 11:00 hour we'll be joined by Mike Connealy. Mike Connealy is running for governor seeking the Republican nomination. He was here last night out in Rochester. I saw pictures from it. Really strong crowd of Republicans at the Ponderosa last night in Rochester to um have their meeting and also to uh to hear and m meet Mike Connealy. Mike's been spending a lot of time here on the South Coast as as Brian Shortleeve here has as well. Mike Manog is kind of just getting into the race officially. So, um he hasn't been around as much, but you know, he's been here. Um he was on otr this weekend. and Mike Connealy will be here on the program to echo his demand, request, however you want to look at it, offer to engage in debates with his Republican opponents here as the primary is getting started. So Mike Connealy will be here talk about a couple but also to issue that challenge. It's been issued on social media in the regular media and now it'll be here on talk radio. So that's that's pretty interesting stuff. All right. So kind of open phones until my guest joins me. Um Sue Connley. Let me see what I got. I got some people on hold. Good morning. Thanks for holding. Morning Chris. Hey. What's happening? Hi. This is Sean Mulvy. Hey Sean. What's going on? Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm calling I'm calling in about the sewage treatment plant meeting tonight. uh and just letting uh wad six residents know or the whole city. Yeah, tell them tell them what's going on. Yeah. Well, um you know, I'm very concerned about that. That was one of my things that when I ran on I I wanted to to get more traction on and I feel vindicated that something's going to happen. So, this is the I hopefully this is the start of something that we can uh the residents can have more input on on a on a regular basis. I'm hoping for that. So, I'm I'm really excited about going to listen tonight to the Department of Public Infrastructure um um Mr. Chaer and uh and and have residents come down and, you know, voice their concerns on different things. Now, I thought I knew I only know what the on the surface what's going on, but there's a lot of things deeper than that that I don't know about that I'm learning about. And uh I think it's going to come out tonight. And uh I think the residents of Wad 6 should really come down and pay attention. Where do they go and what time is it at Shawn Maui? It's uh two it's tonight 6:00 p.m. at the surge treatment plant. You just drive right into Taber. Yep. And you take your first right right in where the the surge treatment plant is assigned right there. You take your right and you take a left. It's a nice building right there. Uh they have a committee uh room there and all that stuff. So it's nice. I've been there before. So uh it's easy to get to. You just go right into Taber right in the entrance. Fort Taber in the south end. Plenty of parking, right? Yes, there is. Sean, I appreciate you getting everybody interested in this meeting. I've had a lot of calls, seen a lot of activity on Facebook. Oh, you have? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think I think you should have a really good turnout tonight um for this meeting. Again, it's a major issue. It it it really is. And um and you know it's it's good that I get I I've been talking to a lot of people and and they're excited about going and uh you know they have a lot of different concerns than what I've have. So I think it's going to be a good thing and uh the only unfortunate thing is they they scheduled this meeting. It's a briefings uh committee uh meeting down in city hall. So, none of the none of the counselors are going to be there cuz they they they're they're doing a ceremonial uh you know, vote for the chief uh chief of police tonight. But listen, those councils are used to being in they're going to be in three places at once. So, they'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. I wouldn't worry about it. Well, I hope I hope someone would I hope that we have some kind of a um representation there from uh Well, you'll be there, Sean Movie. Right. Well, I'm going to do my best, Chris. I'm going to just do my best as a citizen of the Wad Six and and a concerned person. So, I'll do my best and uh we'll see what happens. Thanks for getting everybody involved, Sean Moy. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, my friend. Uh tell us how that meeting works out. All right, guys. I'm going to take a break. When I come back, be joined by Suzanne Connley, um who's a big activist, um from down the Cape against offshore wind. and I'm just but she's been recommended to me by a number of people and I'm excited to have her on the program. So, we'll take a break and then we'll be right back. Stick around. Back to Chris McCarthy and South Coast now on WBSM. Call 508996500. Am I just Am I just a fool? When the summer's gone, she'll be back standing by the light. What she's been gone do. She should know for you. [Music] Welcome back to the program. I'm Chris McCarthy. It's beautiful here in Fair Haven. Hope it's beautiful wherever you are. We're now going to be joined for the first time by Sue Connley. Sue is an activist from Down the Cape Fighting Offshore Wind and um recommended to me by a number of people and I'm excited to have her on the program. Good morning. Thank you for joining me, Sue. Good morning, Chris. How are you? I'm doing great. I'm doing great. So, what is happening down the Cape um that you're involved with? Tell my audience all about this. Sure. Well, for three and a half years, our group Save Greater Dous Beach has been fighting uh the plans by Auburn Grid Renewables to land uh a number of extra high voltage 400 megawatt cables onto our recreational beaches. three of them. They managed to do it uh to one beach, Kovalt's beach, uh for the vineyard wind project. So, uh we have a whole number of issues with these plans. Uh that we just think it's the one of the most poorly conceived ideas ever to run all this infrastructure through, you know, beaches and seaside villages and so forth. But what we decided to do, and this is what's caused a bit of an uproar here in town, is to monitor the EMF radiation coming off of the two cables from uh partially constructed Vineyard Wind. And I have to point to a December 3rd article in the New Bedford Light, okay, that really lays out just how partially constructed this project is. They are still having problems getting up to the 62 turbines they plan but right now from what we can see from shore uh they have uh at most 21 turbines spinning. uh they could have added a couple more you know in the last week or so but it's about a third operational but anyway we started monitoring the EMF and comparing our our results to the EMF levels uh that were modeled during the sighting and permitting process with the state and what we've discovered is um our worries about EMF on the beach itself uh are really you know uh unfounded that the cables are way too deep but what we discovered is that in the parking lot and on the 5.3 mile duct bank route that carries this electricity to their uh substation uh the values are far far greater than what they told the EFSB they would be. Now these cables not only you know the displacing vaults especially um can be up to 200 times what one would experience uh in what's called ambient background uh EMF and then along the duct bank it goes through residential neighborhoods a number of them uh there's five miles of these duck banks now and if they have their way there would be eventually 20 miles of these um these duck banks running through the the town of Barnstable and we are not happy about it. Well, I will say this, thousands of residents are not happy about it. Um, of course, Vineyard Winds will always, you know, have their supporters and the people who claim that unless we do this, the planet's going to die. A narrative I believe is truly falling apart at this point. Yes. Um, but uh this is our fight. I brought uh the results of our study. It's called I I heard a phrase I I love it. It's called citizen science. And citizen science happens when normal people, you know, run-of-the-mill everyday people decide that their governments are not paying attention to what they should be paying attention to. There's a long tradition of this in the United States. And uh two weeks ago, well, three weeks ago now, when I brought it to town council, our initial results, which are startling, uh we were ridiculed by one of the uh brand new town counselors in the town of Barnstable. So, I went back last Thursday and I corrected the record. We are not pretending to be scientists. We are telling the state and the feds that they need to come in and take a look at this because we believe it's unhealthy. We believe that um the the levels are far higher than they said they would be. And that to me is a is a um a sort of lie when it came to sighting and permitting. So I'm I'm kind of concentrating on we are our group I shouldn't say I our whole group is concentrating on the onshore impact of offshore wind and um it's something that you know doesn't get as much attention as the damage to the fisheries and the deaths of all the whales lately but um uh I think it's just as important. We're speaking with Sue Connley. So she's from Barnstable and uh right down the road. Um talk about um why I believe it's electromagnetic fields, right? That's the EMF. Yes. All right. Explain explain what you believe that'll do to people on the beach in the parking lots down there and to tourism really because I don't think people want to be around this stuff. No. No. the so not to get too deep into it but um if you are standing in your kitchen Chris yes the uh the EMF would be registered at about 1.5 to 2 milligos milligos is the unit of measurement traditionally used to um detect EMF. Um so we we use the same meters that um someone working for the town used in spring of 2024. They cost about $110. They're not cheap and we've trained ourselves. We have a couple of engineers on our group and we made sure that we planned this all out carefully and what we're measuring over the duck bank and al over well the splicing vaults first of all that's where the two cables come in under the beach they get spliced in these um these installations uh underground in the parking lot where people actually park and little kids run around their bathing suits we've measured uh the last week I measured 230 migos that means that the radiation is way way beyond what they ever said it would be. Now there is um a group called the International Commission on Nonionizing Radiation Protection NERP I call them um and they've said that we shouldn't worry until it reaches 2000. Okay. I'm not quite sure if they are referring to the same kind of um ELF EMS that we're measuring or if they're talking about cell towers which are radio frequency EMFs. But um anyway uh it doesn't matter. These levels have been recognized by many in um uh uh first world countries as uh dangerous. They're not accepting this 2,000 Migos. And in fact, when we bought our meters, they came with a card that said at 200 Migos, you should leave the area. Well, this is what we're reading. Yeah. This is what and I have pictures on our Facebook page, Save Greater Delta Beach, of that card. And those cards basically say it. 200 Migos leave the area. Uh, a couple of weeks ago I was doing a spot check and it was reading 220 Migos and there was a woman sitting in her car right over the duck bank. Not the duck bank, I'm sorry, the splicing vault eating lunch. And I'm thinking I should go over and tell her move your car, you know, and I have suggested to the town that because uh the parking lot is, you know, exhibiting this kind of radiation that perhaps we should think about blocking off some of the park, you know, especially the parking spots near the um the duck bank, the um I'm sorry, the splicing vaults. But along the Duck Bank, we're still getting we're getting 89, 110, and this these are levels that are right through neighborhoods 247 um 365. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes. Uh Avenid said to us, well, first they told us the levels would be undetectable, which is patently false, and then they said it would be no greater than a haird dryer. Well, my answer to that is who holds their haird dryer to their head 24/7 365? These these property owners were made adjacent to extra high voltage without their knowledge or their agreement. So if you buy a home next to high voltage, that's your decision. Yes. But if high voltage suddenly is put in your front yard and you have no say about it, I have to question what who would think that's cor you know that's right. I don't think that's right. No, I I agree with you. Sue Sue um was speaking with Sue Connley from Barnstable and what is the name of your group and how do people get more information? How do they get involved? Help us out with that. Sure. So, our Facebook page is Save Greater Delta's Beach. Uh we we do accept donations. We don't have a lot of money, but we accept enough to, you know, we have a a lawsuit going uh about the fact that uh Craigville Beach was um permitted to uh do the next landing of two more cables. So we do have uh like support that way. We have a lobbyist in Washington who's trying to impress upon certain departments like interior and energy that we really need to take a second look at this. So that's that's one way they can help. The other way they can help is to put pressure on Mora Healey. I said this morning on another radio program that if she's talking about energy and her lips are moving, she's lying. She came out she came out yesterday and said that ocean wind farms are driving down the cost of electricity. I can't imagine a more ridiculous statement, especially since the only project is Vineyard Wind and it's a third ready to go and it's a third operational. It's not driving down. She spent hundreds of millions of dollars on this and she intends to um continue to support it, which is why I am so anxious that we get another governor in the corner office in November. We're speak we're speaking with Sue Connley um from Barnesville. So the um how are people locally down there reacting to this radiation and uh all of this and the activity the commercial activity um going on on the beaches which are normally for rest and relaxation. Yeah, it's pretty gruesome. I will tell you that I I keep my you know finger on the pulse of of of what the vast majority of people are thinking and saying and people do not want these. Um, and I, you know, I know it's that, you know, New Bedford has an investment in this with, you know, the staging area and all that, but, um, I would say far, far more people realize that this is an absolute boondoggle. It's ruining the oceans. I I want to mention that my good friend Amy Dibio, um, she's sort of, you know, they're covering the the impact in the ocean. Uh, Tyler Mallister is also a good friend and he's going to be in Austerville Thursday evening between 5 and 8 at the Veterans Hall. And if you want to hear what this is doing to our oceans, please come and listen to Tyler. He's he's so knowledgeable. This is a guy that goes to the White House and informs them about what's happening to the fisheries. This is destroying the cod fishery, by the way. So, you know, offshore and onshore, it's an absolute disaster for Cape Cod, and it needs to be stopped as soon as possible in my opinion. Um, so what about your your your local so like the Barnesable Town Council, uh, those people down there, maybe your state senator, uh, your state representatives, how are they to work with on are they listening to you? Do they agree with you? Help me out here, Susan. Well, we do have a few friends uh, on our town council, thankfully. Um there was a little bit of a turnover, you know, and and a bit of a shift to the um you know, the green grift side of things, but I will say that uh the other night a citizen stood up. He's he's he typically does this, you know, claiming he has expertise and I'm I'm ignorant and fear-mongering and all that and one of the counselors really took him down to ch to Chinatown as they say. So that that felt great. That felt like good. We do have some support on town council. Steve Exaros is the only elected representative listening to us at all. I will say that um clearly, you know, it's been three and a half years. Chris and and Steve understands where we're coming from and he thinks that the energy policy that this administration has been promoting is just wrong. I I testified at the state house last um a few months ago and I said, you know, this whole energy policy needs a reset. It's not working. And and if you listen to to Healey, she's trying to move to the middle. She's trying to talk now about small modular reactors and but at the same time she's saying we have to pursue offshore wind. Offshore wind should come off the table at this point. Um and I think the feds are going to see that that happens. We'll see. Um a federal judge ruled against President Trump yesterday saying that his order for all the departments, the cabinet level departments to review this is is illegal. So, we'll see where that goes. I'm not sure where, you know, a district judge gets to run the administration, but um uh people are all upset about that decision, but I I'm not sure she has much authority over what the president does uh in this regard. So, um and the folks who have jobs on these wind farms, you know, if if the if the if Washington prevails, believe me, you'll have jobs for six to seven years getting uh everything out of the ocean. So, um, I'd love to see Vineyard Win dismantled, quite frankly. Um, I think it's a it's a it's a mess. Um, again, that December 3rd article in the New Bedford Light was really eyeopening about how much trouble they have in getting up and running. And, uh, it it belies this fact that they're supplying so much energy to Massachusetts. It's just not true. Most of the time they're they're drawing energy to keep themselves up and running out there. We're speaking with Sue Connley from Barnstable and um she's an activist down there. She's got a group going uh down to to try to save their beaches. Sue, we saw when the blade failed out on Nantucket, it shut down tourism out there really caused a major disaster. Cape Cod without beaches that tourists want to go to um would be horrible, right? I mean, that's a major part of your economy and talk about that. Well, absolutely. I mean, without tourism, Cape Cod uh would really lose. And to tell you the truth, I think this is part of, you know, why certain groups like, you know, certain groups don't like what we're doing. But what we're saying is who the heck wants to go lay on a beach with,200 megawatts of electricity running under it, right? You know, it's just it's insane. And from the very start, Chris, we said, "What are you doing? This is not where to land this electricity. You need to go to areas that are industrial, like for example, the canal power plant or places that would accept this and want the money." And Do you understand what I'm saying? I do. But no, no, no. They just insisted Barnstable is the place to go. And why is that, Sue? Well, I think it's because they've chosen to use uh HVAC cabling from uh their three projects, which are Vineyard Win, New England one, and New England 2. And that limits the distance. If they had planned on using HVDC cabling, they could have gone 100 miles for, you know, it would have been much different. It would have been much more industrial. But they just took a look around Barnstable and they bribed a former town council. we'll give you x number of millions of dollars if you let us go to cobalt's beach and that town council jumped at it. What they didn't realize was Vineyard Wind, I'm I'm sorry, a good renewables already had their eyes on beautiful public Craigville Beach, which is one of the most gorgeous uh beaches on uh Nantucket Sound. And then they took a ride down the down the road and they saw um Dos's Beach, which is actually an incredibly fragile Estuarian area. and they said, "Yeah, we'll land three here." So, you know, this is what caused our group to form and to fight. You know, we one of our big issues is they're building massive substations right on top of Cape Cod's soul source aquifer. Um the duct banks, the 20 mi of duct banks would heat up our water, our drinking water uh delivery system. And when we talked about that with them, they said, "Well, you might have to chlorinate your water." For the first time ever, Cape Cod water would have to be chlorinated because of these people. It It's just I mean the the number of of issues we have with this onshore uh equal the issues that are out there in the ocean. Um and that's what we're so happy. I'm so pleased and grateful that you let me come on today to talk about this because um it's it's not been the story, but to us it's the story, that's for sure. in Barnstable, the biggest town on Cape Cod, um is really ground zero of all the towns and cities in the country for this crazy experiment of the Biden administration. So, um and and does Sue Speaker Sue Connley from Barnes Dallas Beach is is her is the beach he's trying to save. Um do you find this to be a pro-environmental project? Do you is this green energy when you really add up all the effects on the environment? I stopped thinking it was green a long long time ago and I remember the first call we made was to our first concern believe it or not uh was for the incredible bird population at Gauss's beach when we were just thinking about what about the wildlife here? It's so beautiful. And so we called the Ottabon Mass Ottabbon. We were told, "No, sorry. We had a seat at the table when this this was all planned and we approve it and more birds are killed by global warming than ocean wind farms." Um, and I I remember hanging up the phone thinking, I'm I'm going to be living in a new reality when the Ottabon does not care about the hundreds of thousands of birds and bats that are killed, chopped in half by turbine blades. Then we knew we were in a different reality. And all the so-called environmental groups, everybody from the environmental league of Massachusetts, Conservation Law Foundation, they have been, you know, promoting this, promoting this, promoting this. And and this might seem cynical, Chris, but I believe this is driven by the billions of dollars that were showered down in the so-called inflation reduction act. Those dollars fueled so many salaries of these so-called environmental lists and all the people who work for them and talk about Ocean Winds, you know, till they're blue in the face that this is the most wonderful thing in the world. And it really is not. Um, and they know it, but they keep they keep talking it up. And I'll tell you, their narrative about even about climate change seems to be crumbling. I mean, when a guy like Bill Gates comes out and says something, you know, the narrative is crumbling. And uh they're getting desperate. They're getting angry. I've been more attacked more in the recent weeks than I've been in three and a half years. But um that's okay. That's okay. Uh I don't I don't mind that. As I say to folks who feel bad, I say, "Oh, sticks and stones." You know, I really don't I don't care. Uh I'm going to keep doing this. And I I said to someone the other day, I'll stop when Avengrid Renewables pulls the plug on New England Wind one and two. I'm not sure we can do much about Vineyard Wind citizens except for our our EMF project, but uh we do want to stop any more cables from coming into our town. And I'd hate to say, you know, send it there, put it in that town instead. That's not fair either. You know, they they they mis they mismanaged this from the very very start. Um they had other options and they chose to come this way. It's not just our beaches, it's our villages, it's our residential neighborhoods, it's our drinking water and and uh we we care very deeply about it. Sue Connley, I really appreciate you making time for us this morning. If people want to get involved with your group, help you help you out, um how do they get in touch with you guys? So, our email is save our beach22. That's the year we were founded. So, save our beach22gmail.com. We have a gofundme site which is save our save greater doses beach and uh we would appreciate any and all uh feedback any support folks can offer. I know folks are really struggling these days especially with these utility bills but uh even a a small donation makes a big big um difference for us in our fight. But uh thank you so much Chris and I'm going to wish you a merry Christmas. Thank you. Merry Christmas to you Sue as well. Don't be a stranger. We'll we'll we'll we'll keep you in the loop because this is a really important issue. Thank you so much, Chris. I really appreciate it. We all do. Thank you, my friend. Uh that was Sue Connley um from Save D's Beach. Um again, like I told you guys, I've got these these like Davy verse Goliath type fighters out there and they inspire me. I hope they inspire you. Um, you don't have to really agree with them to appreciate their uh their Americanism, right? Standing up for what they think is right. And that's important. Really important. All right, we're going to uh take a break and we'll be back. Open phones. If you have something going on, you want to talk about it, you want to talk about my last guest, that would be great. How do you feel about offshore wind? Did you read that article in New Bedford Light? Remember, we have Mike Connealy coming up in the 11:00 hour as well. Stick around. We'll be right back. This portion of programming on WBSM brought to you by South Coast Health. Advanced medicine, more care. South Coast Now with Chris McCarthy. Weekdays on 1420 a.m. and 995 FM. WBSM. [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Welcome back to the program. I'm Chris McCarthy. It's getting to feel a lot like Christmas out there, right? Beautiful day, beautiful day to head to Carter's Clothing, get some of your Christmas shopping done. You know, for 78 years, you've been able to count on Carter's Clothing. They've been the South Coast one-stop shop for clothing and footwear. And this Christmas, they're making gift giving giving even easier. 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Thanks for holding. Chris, what's happening? You tell me. Paul, I uh have a question for you. Um approximately three weeks ago, you had state rep Steve Ola calling to the program. Yes. And he said he would agree to to uh come on the show. Did you ever uh I haven't heard from him. I haven't heard from him. That that's that's that's typical. He he never follows through. And this is why we need Jesse St. J in that position and we can uh vote for Jesse on no in November 2026 and uh Jesse St. Joy is having a Christmas party tomorrow at 4:27 County Street in New Buffett. The Wutter Club from 7 to 9 and the Taylor Cormier, the great Taylor, great Taylor. That's right. He's performing and uh there'll be Santa Claus there for the children and uh there'll be tickets for sale uh when when you when you go in. So hopefully everybody shows up and uh have a merry Christmas and you're doing a great job. Keep it up. Thanks Paul. I do appreciate it my friend. Thank you uh for the kind words and the support. Um it's a great time of year. It really is. All kinds of good stuff going on. Hopefully you get out there and enjoy it. Enjoy it. Right. 508996 0500. Back to the phones. Good morning. Thanks for holding. Uh good morning. Hey, I was uh listening earlier this morning when you had Chris Marky on and it's nice that you have that show to go over the legal aspects. I just wish that there was some other legal mind that was doing that instead instead of our legislature because our legislature has enough real issues going on and his commun communication time should be used to talk about the real issues that he's been ducking and Tony Cabraw have been ducking for like decades that we are not being represented and the last caller was just talking about somebody else that isn't showing up or talking up. These guys will only come on a show when they want to get reelected and they want votes, but they don't want to talk about the real issues. Like, why do Tell me the like what's going on with the housing law that allowed all these illegals to uh come into our state and take up housing and waste all that money on hotels. They never changed that law. Yeah, they could have. It's It's called the No, it's called the shelter law. Just for people who don't know, sir. So what we have is the right to shout the law and it was all intended for for Americans and they totally blew it out years before though until we realized how it could be manipulated to be used for people that were here illegally. And our governor was was dead wrong in what she did. But our legislature just sat there. Every single one of them sat there and didn't change the law. We have not been represented. Diesel legislators have been ripping off the taxpayers and now they're looking at 13 and 20% tax increases in Boston. Well, what do you think that's going to eventually re run down to here? It's only a matter of time before they spend too much money on the illegals and another BS that these legislators keep on doing and they come on to shows when they want to vote, but they don't want to talk about the real issues because they wouldn't show up. The um the fact of the matter is is that the governor and the legislature, supermajority Democrat, um really have spent billions on illegal aliens. I mean, it's it's absolutely outrageous. It when I hear about what's going on in Minnesota, the only thought in the back of my mind is we have asked for an audit. 70% of the people in Massachusetts asked for an audit. Our government thinks they're above it all. People like Marky think they're above it and they use some fake news thing saying, "Oh, well, we want we we don't want the encroachment on our power." BS. The people of Massachusetts spoke up and they said they want an audit. They want to know where the money is being spent and you and the governor are both and the DA, the attorney general rather, are hiding and trying to hide the the truth from the people. So, this is wrong. This is what our legislature is doing to you to Democrats and Republicans in this state. They're doing this to all the taxpayers. And that's why Democrats who vote in this state need to start speaking up and start thinking with their heads. Vote smart, don't vote Democrat. Because voting smart will get the people who are qualified like Mike Manugg to really run this state. Mike Mike Manog's extraordinarily qualified guy. I had him in for an hour the other day. Um I think he's doing a fantastic job and and I think all three of the Republicans uh are really quality candidates. Hopefully everybody will get a chance to meet them all before they get an opportunity to vote in September. Well, when they when they talk about how much taxes are going to re increase in Boston, all I can say is every one of those Democrats that voted for uh Woo deserves what they're getting because when you vote idiots in, you get idiot reaction and you get uh idiots running the state that spend our money wastefully. Thank you, my friend. Don't be a stranger. Thanks for the call. Do appreciate it. Guys, the big concern is the preservation of Proposition 2 and a half, which was enacted because property taxes and auto excise taxes became so high that there was a major revolution bloodless in 1980 that voted in Proposition 2 and a half by a landslide. the the law is still on the books, but every year the radical activists and the radical Democrats try to make a run at it, trying to get rid of Proposition 2 and a half, chipping away at it. Look at the attempt to allow local municipalities to increase the auto excise tax. That is an assault on Proposition two and a half. Absolute assault. We're gonna take a break and then we'll be right back. We'll have Mike Connealy who's seeking the governor's office, the Republican nomination coming up in the what is it next hour? Yeah, at 11:30. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the program. I'm Chris McCarthy. Hey, it's really cold out there. You're feeling it. So is your automobile. So get it over to Mac Auto Sales, 188 Rivet Street in the city of New Bedford. Mac Auto Sales is a family-owned business. Make sure you mention WBSM. They'll save you something on the bill. They repair all makes and models of automobiles. So if you need to get your car ready for the winter, winterize your automobile, call and make an appointment at Mac Auto Sales. 508-565 6221. Open weekdays 9 to 5. You say you have a foreign car, that's perfect. Mac Auto Sales specializes in servicing foreign automobiles. Ask about their aftermarket accessories and their quality used cars